I've Been Persecuted, Praise God!

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

(Mat 5:10-12)

So...it all started when Donald Trump became President-Elect of the United States.  A comic I read called "Pizza Cake Comics" released a comic talking about Project 2025.  In the first three panels, the representative said, "We want to ban abortion for all American women!" (PCC is based in Canada), "We also want to ban access to contraceptives!  Women need to know recreational sex is evil!"  Then in the last panel, a news article reads "AMERICAN WOMEN STOP HAVING SEX ALTOGETHER" "REPUBLICAN MEN CONFUSED, HORNY" 'DON'T THEY WANT 16 CHILDREN??"  with a side headline that reads, "ALSO PORN IS NOW ILLEGAL?"

Now, this post is not about Pizza Cake Comics.  I get the point.  The Left thinks Project 2025 will turn America into Gilead.

But here's what happened:  A comment by Kaitlynn Cary spoke of how Republicans keep saying "abortion is bad" but won't even help the child after birth.  This sentiment I totally agree with.

So I replied, "Former Republican here, [I became Unaffiliated on September 1, 2022] and I agree.  I'm still anti-abortion, but mainly [I first said "only", but changed it because I want to be clear I'm not cold and indifferent towards life] so God won't smite America.  Because of that, I don't mind what the GOP calls "socialism".  I want pre-borns AND pre-schools fine [a George Carlin reference]."

So...some alarm bells went off.  Yet, I wasn't entirely sure why.

Just now, I found out.  It was the God part.

So, Ms. Cary replied, "No no, Douglas.  I want reasoning without god (which some have given)."

[In my opinion, you can't talk about abortion vs. pro-life without talking about God, God is very much on the minds of the pro-life crowd]

A gentleman named Aaron Murray (who calls himself a "Christian who actually reads the Bible") then piped in, telling me, "Bud, abortion isn't a sin." then explained to everyone about Exodus 21:22:

Exo 21:22  If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 

Another gentleman named Lawrence Inutiq-Sackett cited Numbers 5:11-31, saying that's "literally how to do an abortion".  The key verses are these:

Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.

(Num 5:21-22)

I was then called an "imbecile" and a "Pharisee".  But before I jump for joy (Luke 6:23), let's just make sure this is persecution, because I may be wrong on the abortion definition.

So, my response to all of this:

"Before I have this thread go off the rails (my apologies PCC), Firstly, I apologize.  I don't consider the biblical examples Mr. Murray and Mr. Sackett cited to be sinful, those examples I don't consider to be abortions (maybe my definition of abortion is off [It was, they consider removing babies of miscarriage abortion]).  I simply believe that an unborn child is a life, and any procedure that intentionally ends the child's life by another person is murder.  As long as the child is not murdered, I'm fine with any termination of pregnancy [I implied that giving birth is technically a termination of pregnancy], even if it ends in the child's death."

Mr. Sackett says "Wrong Answer":

"They didn't have Plan B millennia ago, you disgusting excuse of a man.  Pro-tip, don't want an abortion?  Don't get one you Fake Xtian."

OK, NOW it's persecution:

Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

(Luk 6:22-23)

 Let's celebrate: